Dr. Robert Morey

Caught Tampering with The Evidence.

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Folks, you have to see this to believe it. If you recall, I have posted a challenge to Dr. Robert Morey,in which I blatantly accused him of fabricating complete, outrageous lies against the religion of Islam. I sited 5 pieces of evidence against him, which where statements that he has made, and I stated that if he can show us proof for any of them, I will pay him $500.00 U.S. cash dollars. It turns out ALL THE STATEMENTS DR. ROBERT MOREY MADE WHICH I DOCUMENTED IN THE CHALLENGE WERE PROVEN FALSE.

Dr. Robert Morey, knew very well, that he would not be able to produce a single shread of evidence for his baseless assertions against Islam. Fearing being exposed as a fraud in front of his peers, What Dr. Morey did next, will simply boggle your mind. Dr. Robert Morey, took the evidence which I presented, and literally changed them to a complete different challenge, then moved to address them. Dr. Bob, altered my evidence against him so he can beat the charges, and in turn, receive a payout totaling of $2,500.00 U.S. cash dollars! He even went so far as to write me a email telling me to get ready to pay him the money! But please do not take my word for it, have a look for yourself:

Here is my original challenge:

"If a fly falls in your cup one wing has poison but the other wing as the antidote so drink it with the fly…."
Click here to hear his statement: Download Now( right mouse click select "Save Target As")

Comments:The hadeeth which Dr. Robert Morey is referring to DOES NOT teach "drink it with the fly".

 

As I have clearly stated, the evidence which I am bringing forth is his statement "DRINK IT WITH THE FLY" which is a complete fabrication. Dr. Robert Morey CHANGED my original challenge to the read the following:

Issue #4 Does a fly have poison in one wing and the antidote to that poison in the other wing?
If it falls into your drinking cup, do you have to throw the water away or can you drink it?

Dr. Morey deliberately removed the phrase DRINK IT WITH THE FLY from my original challenge. Dr. Morey then procedes to address this concocted challenge which he distorted. Therefore, It has been clearly proven, that Dr. Bob did indeed lie about this statement.

The following is another example, of deliberatly tampering with my evidence, pay close attention, my original challenge stated:

"And I do admit I’m an infidel, Im an unbeliever, make no mistake about it,then they say
,FATWA! FATWA! FATWA! which is death in Arabic, I said I’m from New York I grew up with
death threats lets go on…
"
Click here to hear his statement:
Download Now( right mouse click select "Save Target As")

Comments:Fatwa does not mean death in Arabic. There is not a single Arabic dictionary or vernacular
which carries this definition. Again, this is pure fabrication

However, Morey re-word the challenge to the following:

Issue #5 Does the issuing of a "Fatwah" ever mean a death sentence?

This is NOT my challenge, rather Dr. Morey completely changed my challenge to something entirely different. Morey clearly stated, that Fatwa means death in Arabic. This is a complete lie. Fatwa in the Arabic Language simply means a religious ruling or verdict. Nothing more. whether or not a religious ruling (fatwah) is a death sentence is irrelevant to my challenge.

Another example of tampering with my evidence which I bought forth, my original challenge read:

 "Now Muhammed said now cant men you cant point towards Mecca,
instead point towards Jerusalem to show your disrespect to jews and Christians…"

Click here to hear his statement: Download Now( right mouse click select "Save Target As")

Comments:
This is referring where you point to while relieving yourself. There is no such teaching in Islam
 which instructs Muslims to point towards Jerusalem, this is pure fabrication.

My challenge is, Where did Prophet Muhammed(P) SAY point towards Jerusalem to show your disrepect? Dr. Bob changed SAID to TEACH, and leaves out to show disrespect to Jews and Christians:

Issue#3 Did Muhammad teach Muslims to face
Jerusalem when going to the bathroom?

This is NOT my challenge to you Dr Bob. He further stated:

3. Muhammad taught Muslims by his example as well as by his words.
 His example was to face Jerusalem . I believe that this was a way to
 show disrespect to the holy city of Jews and Christians

Not everything the Prophet(P) did was a teaching of Islam. For example, in the same hadeeth we read:

Volume 1, Book 4, Number 147:

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:

People say, "Whenever you sit for answering the call of nature, you should not face the Qibla or Bait-ulMaqdis (Jerusalem)." I told them. "Once I went up the roof of our house and I saw Allah's Apostle answering the call of nature while sitting on two bricks facing Bait-ul-Maqdis (Jerusalem) (but there was a screen covering him. ' (FatehAl-Bari, Page 258, Vol. 1).

So tell me, is it a teaching of Islam to use 2 bricks? The answer is No. The Prophet(P) did many things which were the customs, or to show something was not forbidden in Islam. The correct understanding of this hadeeth is that inspite of Jerusalem being the third most holiest place in Islam and where the Prophet Muhammed(P) ascended to heaven, and where the Dome of the Rock lies, the same fiqh ruling is not given for Jerusalem. Morey further stated:

“I believe that this was a way to show disrespect
to the holy city of Jews and Christians. “

This is my point, you admit the Prophet Muhammed(P) never SAID nor TAUGHT to point to show disprespect to Jews and Christians AS YOU STATED, therefore, the statement you made was a complete lie. As for what you believe… who cares. You are probably the first person in the entire history of Islam to ever think such a foolish thing.

In the next example, we will see how Dr. Robert Morey has to invent another lie to cover his first lie:

"John 3:16 has proven to be so effective, for God so loved the world
, You will never read about Allah loving anybody but himself."
Click here to hear his statement: Download Now( right mouse click select "Save Target As")

 Robert Morey in his response changes this to a issue of conditional - unconditional love:

Issue #2 Does the Qur'an teach that Allah has the same
unconditional love for sinners as found in John 3:16?

The issue of conditional - unconditional love was never mentioned, NOR was this the context of your statement, rather, you are bringing up this issue today. YOU SPECIFICALLY STATED:

You will never read about Allah loving anybody but himself."

Please tell us where Allah states in the Quran I LOVE myself?

Nadir claims that the Qur'an does speak of Allah
having the same kind of love found in John 3:16.
 Is this true in terms of the facts?

This is a complete lie. I NEVER made this claim. I challenge Morey to show me where I said that.

The God of the Bible unconditionally loves lost, ungodly,
 wicked sinners so much that He sent His Son to save them.
 In Rom. 5 we are told that God loved us while we were yet
 ungodly, sinners, and His enemies.

 

This is actually not true. God hates many people:

Psalm 5:5, "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity,"

Lev. 20:23, "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them."

Prov. 6:16-19, "There are six things which the Lord hates, yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil,

19 A false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers."

Hosea 9:15, "All their evil is at Gilgal; indeed, I came to hate them there! Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of My house! I will love them no more; All their princes are rebels."

Moreover, Sam Shamoun of Answering Islam clearly teaches that God hates the SINNER. And anyone who teaches otherwise, is teaching false doctrine. You need to take it up with him, I would invite you to contact him because I don’t like to speak for him. Im not an expert in Sam Shamoun.

The point I was raising in my speech is
 that God's unconditional love for lost sinners
is not found in the Qur'an.

Bob, I listened to the tape carefully, you never stated anything about the issue of unconditional love. Here we see again, you need to invent another lie to cover your first lie.

And the final piece of evidence I brought forth against Dr. Bob Morey:

"The only hope of paradise is that they murder someone in the name
 of Jihad and are killed in the process, what a horrible situation, we
 feel their pain, they need the Savior…."
Click here to hear his statement: Download Now( right mouse click select "Save Target As")

Comments:There are multiple lies in this statement, which can be uncovered, but for now, I will only address Dr. Robert Morey’s false claim of the only way to paradise is by ‘murdering’ in Jihad:

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 600:

Narrated Anas:

I heard the Prophet saying, "On the Day of Resurrection I will intercede and say, "O my Lord! Admit into Paradise (even) those who have faith equal to a mustard seed in their hearts." Such people will enter Paradise, and then I will say, 'O (Allah) admit into Paradise (even) those who have the least amount of faith in their hearts." Anas then said: As if I were just now looking at the fingers of Allah's Apostle.

 

Dr. Bob, did not even attempt to explain away his false statement he made against Islam. I think this shows a lack of creativity on his part. I mean, Bob, you could have at least made up something, like, " Well, you see there was a Muslim in the audience who said I had to kill you to go to heaven, so I thought…" or "It said so in this book I had a long time ago…."

Since you did not even bother to defend yourself on this, we will just chalk it up as another terrible LIE you have concocted against Islam.

 In conclusion, the total payout to Dr. Bob Morey regarding the $500.00 challenge, is: $000.00. All his statements turned out to be false. Dr. Morey, refused to put my original challenge on his website, soo his readers CAN NOT READ FOR THEMSELVES what the challenge actually says. By doing this, Morey was able to tamper with evidence without his flock knowing, and make it appear to them that he was actually addressing the challenge which was issued by me on his radio show. As I have mentioned, I believe that Dr. Morey’s problem is pathological, and that he needs help, because it takes a pretty sick mind pull off these kinds of stunts, and we at ExamineTheTruth.com have pledged to help Dr. Morey with his condition, there are many good Muslim Doctors whom can treat Dr. Morey free of charge. But, Dr. Morey, you must first come forward and admit that you have a problem. My door is open anytime. The $500.00 challenge is offically over. By the way, Dr Bob before I let you go, you would not be in any way related to Ali Sina Would you? You don't have to answer that.

( Click here to read the rest of my response to Dr. Robert Morey and the CHALLENGE TO DEBATE.)

   


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