Dr. Robert Morey
Caught Tampering with The Evidence.
Folks, you have to see this to believe it. If you recall, I have
posted a challenge
to Dr. Robert Morey,in which I blatantly accused him of fabricating complete,
outrageous lies against the religion of Islam. I sited 5 pieces of evidence
against him, which where statements that he has made, and I stated that if he
can show us proof for any of them, I will pay him $500.00 U.S. cash
dollars. It turns out ALL THE STATEMENTS DR. ROBERT MOREY MADE WHICH I
DOCUMENTED IN THE CHALLENGE WERE PROVEN FALSE.
Dr. Robert Morey, knew very well, that he would not be able to
produce a single shread of evidence for his baseless assertions against Islam.
Fearing being exposed as a fraud in front of his peers, What Dr. Morey did
next, will simply boggle your mind. Dr. Robert Morey, took the evidence which I
presented, and literally changed them to a complete different challenge, then
moved to address them. Dr. Bob, altered my evidence against him so he can beat
the charges, and in turn, receive a payout totaling of $2,500.00 U.S. cash dollars!
He even went so far as to write me a email telling me to get ready to pay him
the money! But please do not take my word for it, have a look for yourself:
Here is my original challenge:
"If
a fly falls in your cup one wing has poison but the other wing as the antidote so
drink it with the fly…."
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Comments:The
hadeeth which Dr. Robert Morey is referring to DOES NOT teach "drink it
with the fly".
As I have clearly stated, the evidence which I am bringing forth
is his statement "DRINK IT WITH THE FLY" which is a complete
fabrication. Dr. Robert Morey CHANGED my original challenge to the read
the following:
Issue #4 Does a fly
have poison in one wing and the antidote to that poison in the other wing?
If it falls into your drinking cup, do you have to throw the water away or can
you drink it?
Dr. Morey deliberately removed the phrase DRINK IT WITH THE FLY
from my original challenge. Dr. Morey then procedes to address this concocted
challenge which he distorted. Therefore, It has been clearly proven, that Dr.
Bob did indeed lie about this statement.
The following is another example, of deliberatly tampering with
my evidence, pay close attention, my original challenge stated:
"And
I do admit I’m an infidel, Im an unbeliever, make no mistake about it,then they
say
,FATWA! FATWA! FATWA! which is death in Arabic, I said I’m from New York
I grew up with
death threats lets go on…"
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Comments:Fatwa
does not mean death in Arabic. There is not a single Arabic dictionary or
vernacular
which carries this definition. Again, this is pure fabrication
However, Morey re-word the challenge to the following:
Issue #5 Does the issuing
of a "Fatwah" ever mean a death sentence?
This is NOT my challenge, rather Dr. Morey completely changed my
challenge to something entirely different. Morey clearly stated, that Fatwa
means death in Arabic. This is a complete lie. Fatwa in the Arabic Language
simply means a religious ruling or verdict. Nothing more. whether or not a
religious ruling (fatwah) is a death sentence is irrelevant to my challenge.
Another example of tampering with my evidence which I bought
forth, my original challenge read:
"Now Muhammed said
now cant men you cant point towards Mecca,
instead point towards Jerusalem to show your disrespect to jews and
Christians…"
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Comments:
This is referring where you point to while relieving yourself. There is no such
teaching in Islam
which instructs Muslims to point
towards Jerusalem, this is pure fabrication.
My challenge is, Where did Prophet Muhammed(P) SAY point towards
Jerusalem to show your disrepect? Dr. Bob changed SAID
to TEACH,
and leaves out to show disrespect to Jews and Christians:
Issue#3 Did Muhammad
teach Muslims to face
Jerusalem when going to the bathroom?
This is NOT my challenge to you Dr Bob. He further stated:
3. Muhammad taught
Muslims by his example as well as by his words.
His example was to face Jerusalem . I
believe that this was a way to
show disrespect to the holy city of
Jews and Christians
Not everything the Prophet(P) did was a teaching of Islam. For
example, in the same hadeeth we read:
Narrated
'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
People
say, "Whenever you sit for answering the call of nature, you should not
face the Qibla or Bait-ulMaqdis (Jerusalem)." I told them. "Once I
went up the roof of our house and I saw Allah's Apostle answering the call of
nature while sitting on two bricks facing Bait-ul-Maqdis
(Jerusalem) (but there was a screen covering him. ' (FatehAl-Bari, Page 258,
Vol. 1).
So tell me, is it a teaching of Islam to use 2 bricks? The
answer is No. The Prophet(P) did many things which were the customs, or to show
something was not forbidden in Islam. The correct understanding of this hadeeth
is that inspite of Jerusalem being the third most holiest place in Islam and
where the Prophet Muhammed(P) ascended to heaven, and where the Dome of the
Rock lies, the same fiqh ruling is not given for Jerusalem. Morey further
stated:
“I believe that this
was a way to show disrespect
to the holy city of Jews and Christians. “
This is my point, you admit the Prophet Muhammed(P) never SAID nor TAUGHT to point to show disprespect to Jews and
Christians AS YOU STATED, therefore, the statement you made was a complete lie.
As for what you believe… who cares. You are probably the first person in the
entire history of Islam to ever think such a foolish thing.
In the next example, we will see how Dr. Robert Morey has to
invent another lie to cover his first lie:
"John
3:16 has proven to be so effective, for God so loved the world
, You will never read about Allah loving anybody but himself."
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Robert
Morey in his response changes this to a issue of conditional - unconditional
love:
Issue #2 Does the
Qur'an teach that Allah has the same
unconditional love for sinners as found in John 3:16?
The issue of conditional - unconditional love was never
mentioned, NOR was this the context of your statement, rather, you are bringing
up this issue today. YOU SPECIFICALLY STATED:
You
will never read about Allah loving anybody but himself."
Please tell us where Allah states in the Quran I LOVE myself?
Nadir claims that the
Qur'an does speak of Allah
having the same kind of love found in John 3:16.
Is this true in terms of the facts?
This is a complete lie. I NEVER made this
claim. I challenge Morey to show me where I said that.
The God of the Bible
unconditionally loves lost, ungodly,
wicked sinners so much that He sent His
Son to save them.
In Rom. 5 we are told that God loved us
while we were yet
ungodly, sinners, and His enemies.
This is actually not true. God hates many people:
Psalm 5:5, "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes;
Thou dost hate all who do iniquity,"
Lev. 20:23, "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of
the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things,
and therefore I have abhorred them."
Prov. 6:16-19, "There are six things which the Lord hates,
yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, feet
that run rapidly to evil,
19 A false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife
among brothers."
Hosea 9:15, "All their evil is at Gilgal; indeed, I came to
hate them there! Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out
of My house! I will love them no more; All their princes are rebels."
Moreover, Sam Shamoun of Answering Islam clearly teaches that God
hates the SINNER. And anyone who teaches otherwise, is teaching false doctrine.
You need to take it up with him, I would invite you to contact him because I
don’t like to speak for him. Im not an expert in Sam Shamoun.
The point I was
raising in my speech is
that God's unconditional love for lost
sinners
is not found in the Qur'an.
Bob, I listened to the tape carefully, you never stated
anything about the issue of unconditional love. Here we see again, you need to
invent another lie to cover your first lie.
And the final piece of evidence I brought forth against Dr. Bob
Morey:
"The
only hope of paradise is that they murder someone in the name
of Jihad and are killed in the process,
what a horrible situation, we
feel their pain, they need the
Savior…."
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Comments:There
are multiple lies in this statement, which can be uncovered, but for now, I
will only address Dr. Robert Morey’s false claim of the only way to paradise is
by ‘murdering’ in Jihad:
Volume 9, Book 93, Number
600:
Narrated Anas:
I heard the Prophet saying, "On the Day of
Resurrection I will intercede and say, "O my Lord! Admit into Paradise
(even) those who have faith equal to a mustard seed in their hearts." Such
people will enter Paradise, and then I will say, 'O (Allah) admit into Paradise
(even) those who have the least amount of faith in their hearts." Anas
then said: As if I were just now looking at the fingers of Allah's Apostle.
Dr. Bob, did not even attempt to explain away his false
statement he made against Islam. I think this shows a lack of creativity on his
part. I mean, Bob, you could have at least made up something, like, "
Well, you see there was a Muslim in the audience who said I had to kill you to
go to heaven, so I thought…" or "It said so in this book I had a long
time ago…."
Since you did not even bother to defend yourself on this, we
will just chalk it up as another terrible LIE you have concocted against Islam.
In conclusion, the total payout to Dr. Bob Morey regarding
the $500.00 challenge, is: $000.00. All his statements turned out to be false.
Dr. Morey, refused to put my original challenge on his website, soo his readers
CAN NOT READ FOR THEMSELVES what the challenge actually says. By doing this,
Morey was able to tamper with evidence without his flock knowing, and make it
appear to them that he was actually addressing the challenge which was issued
by me on his radio show. As I have mentioned, I believe that Dr. Morey’s
problem is pathological, and that he needs help, because it takes a pretty sick
mind pull off these kinds of stunts, and we at ExamineTheTruth.com have pledged
to help Dr. Morey with his condition, there are many good Muslim Doctors whom
can treat Dr. Morey free of charge. But, Dr. Morey, you must first come forward
and admit that you have a problem. My door is open anytime. The $500.00
challenge is offically over. By the way, Dr Bob before I let you go, you would
not be in any way related to Ali Sina Would you? You don't have to answer
that.
( Click here to read the rest of my response to Dr. Robert
Morey and the CHALLENGE TO DEBATE.)
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Lies against Islam