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Shameless Shamoun wrote:
I also alluded to what to me was an easy victory in the very material which I had prepared specifically for this debate:
In fact, portions of this material were successfully used in refuting a Muslim neophyte named Nadir Ahmed in a live debate held on July 16, 2003 at Paltalk titled "What the Quran says about the Bible." If and when possible, we will try to make tapes of the debate available for anyone who is interested in hearing it for themselves. [For now it can be accessed online here:http://www.islamiccenterofpeoria.org/debates.html.] (Source: http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/bible_authentic1.htm)
I did so again in an endnote to the following article:
[1] For a glimpse of just how solid the Islamic evidence is concerning the first Muslims believing that the Holy Bible is the preserved word of God, we welcome our readers to listen to a debate between Sam Shamoun and Nadir Ahmed on this topic which took place on Paltalk (http://www.islamiccenterofpeoria.org/debates.html). (Source: http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/tahrif.htm)
So it is quite strange that I would provide a link to our debate in several places, and even claim that I soundly defeated NA, if I ever thought that he came anywhere close to humiliating me.
As far as Naik is concerned, I have no qualms about admitting that he won his debate against Campbell. Yet, this is far different from saying that Naik’s refutation of Campbell was due to his sound arguments, logical consistency and factual content. In all honesty, Naik failed to refute any aspect of Campbell’s book with solid facts and sound argumentation. He managed to dazzle his audience with a lot of rhetoric which was devoid of any substance. We produced a section exposing Naik’s lies, textual misinterpretation, logical fallacies and cheap debate tricks:
We are so confident that our series of articles sufficiently expose Naik’s deceptive argumentation that we challenge NA to try and refute them and post his responses on his web site for all to see. We challenge him to show that Naik’s argumentation was based on an accurate exegesis of the Bible and the Quran, as opposed to misinterpretation and empty rhetoric. Furthermore, we have already begun a series of responses exposing NA’s empty rhetoric and gross errors since he too has chosen to follow Naik’s example of promoting lies in order to convince people of his religion (see "NA & Science": [
Part 1], [Part 2]).
Response:
One of us, either Nadir Ahmed or
Sam "The Sham" Shamoun is a pathological liar, just like Robert Morey. One of us is openly trying to deceive you. One of us needs to be exposed NOW. I have very clearly stated in my article, that Sam "The Sham" Shamoun a.k.a Shameless Shamoun was utterly humiliated and exposed as a Liar in the debate. He did not have a single valid argument and he was hammered with S. 4:157 for 30 long minutes unable to respond!Both of us cannot be right. One of us is a sick, and demented liar, badly in need of medical help. You can find out the truth very easily by downloading the debate below:
Download Now (right mouse click and select "Save Target As")This indeed is a sickness, that someone would OPENLY tell such blatant lies when the truth can be very easily verified against that person… what a sicko.
Sam "The Sham" Shamoun wrote:
As far as Naik is concerned, I have no qualms about admitting that he won his debate against Campbell.
Response:
We don’t care if you admit it or not. The truth is obvious! But the issue is that ever since the debate, AI have been engaged in deception by hiding this debate as I exposed you on my website:
"Unfortunately, the Answering Islam team (who are staunch supporters of Israel) has systematically refused to put the debate on their website, nor to even make known that such a debate took place to its congregation! Nevertheless, the debate can be purchased just a stones throw away from the Answering Islam's head quarters (South Asian Christian Friendship Center) here in Chicago, at a Muslim bookstore right down the street ;-) . Therefore, I see it as my duty to make this debate available to all."
Alhumdulilah, Answering Islam’s bamboozlement has been EXPOSED! It was only as a result of ExamineTheTruth.com’s "full court press" that FORCED Answering Islam to admit after 3 years "he won". But till now, this debate has been hidden by the Answering Islam’s team, because they do not want their Christian flock to see it, or else, "my lord, what will they say ?". This type of FRAUD IS OUTRAGEOUS ands shows just how dishonest Shameless Shamoun and his gang of thugs at Answering Islam are.
Sam "The Sham" Shamoun wrote:
We are so confident that our series of articles sufficiently expose Naik’s deceptive argumentation that we challenge NA to try and refute them and post his responses on his web site for all to see.
Response:
I challenge you to FIRST air the debate on your website THEN I will refute your garbage.